Daaang nice one. I still got the 2 cores 10gb ram 40gb ssd for 18€/3m
Sooo tempting. Also it will likely have nested virtualisation again so you can easily make 3-4 smaller vps. Also interesting for reseller to offer nat server.
This is a very good deal. I really don’t need it (I keep telling myself I’m happy with the Schnupperspecial) but if you do: go go go. You won’t be disappointed.
Yeah, it's a great deal, but I've decided that I can't buy any further VPSes in 2019
(Not to mention that I got their BF special!)
"A single swap file or partition may be up to 128 MB in size. [...] [I]f you need 256 MB of swap, you can create two 128-MB swap partitions." (M. Welsh & L. Kaufman, Running Linux, 2e, 1996, p. 49)
"A single swap file or partition may be up to 128 MB in size. [...] [I]f you need 256 MB of swap, you can create two 128-MB swap partitions." (M. Welsh & L. Kaufman, Running Linux, 2e, 1996, p. 49)
@rchurch said:
Are 4 shared cores better than 2 dedicated cores?
On average, probably yes, but this may not be the case at any given moment, depending on what one's neighbors are doing at that moment (but I suspect that PHP-Friends will keep an eye out for CPU abusers)
I still have one with higher specs but 2 dedicated cores with them.
Two dedicated cores are probably a safer bet than four shared cores
"A single swap file or partition may be up to 128 MB in size. [...] [I]f you need 256 MB of swap, you can create two 128-MB swap partitions." (M. Welsh & L. Kaufman, Running Linux, 2e, 1996, p. 49)
@rchurch said:
Are 4 shared cores better than 2 dedicated cores?
I still have one with higher specs but 2 dedicated cores with them.
I have data where 3 dedicated cores consistently performs worse than 2 fair share cores on multi-core Geekbench. Couple of possible reasons:
The amount of fixed CPU time allocated to the dedicated cores can vary so even if dedicated, it may not perform very well depending how much is allocated.
My 2 core has a better host node CPU than the 3 core.
The 2 core host node is very well-managed such that whenever I need full performance I get maximum CPU time on those cores.
Therefore it all depends on how the host node is managed. I say the secret sauce is to know the provider and how they manage. I am a lot happier with my 2 shared cores than 3 dedicated cores.
Of course, it is not easy to get information on how hosts set up their host nodes and balance them. You need to learn by trying and also from asking around. I don't know about CPU shared cores with PHP-Friends because I don't have a service with them to test for an extended period. I have some in testing now for about a week plus and that is why I can tell you that dedicated cores may not mean much.
@rchurch said:
Are 4 shared cores better than 2 dedicated cores?
I still have one with higher specs but 2 dedicated cores with them.
I have data where 3 dedicated cores consistently performs worse than 2 fair share cores on multi-core Geekbench. Couple of possible reasons:
The amount of fixed CPU time allocated to the dedicated cores can vary so even if dedicated, it may not perform very well depending how much is allocated.
My 2 core has a better host node CPU than the 3 core.
The 2 core host node is very well-managed such that whenever I need full performance I get maximum CPU time on those cores.
Therefore it all depends on how the host node is managed. I say the secret sauce is to know the provider and how they manage. I am a lot happier with my 2 shared cores than 3 dedicated cores.
Of course, it is not easy to get information on how hosts set up their host nodes and balance them. You need to learn by trying and also from asking around. I don't know about CPU shared cores with PHP-Friends because I don't have a service with them to test for an extended period. I have some in testing now for about a week plus and that is why I can tell you that dedicated cores may not mean much.
Is it the same provider in the case of the two instances that you describe above?
In any case, your points are well-taken: in principle, there are a number of variables that play a role.
In my answer above, I was implicitly assumIng the same provider and comparable nodes, the main factor of variation being potentially (very) active neighbors at different times.
"A single swap file or partition may be up to 128 MB in size. [...] [I]f you need 256 MB of swap, you can create two 128-MB swap partitions." (M. Welsh & L. Kaufman, Running Linux, 2e, 1996, p. 49)
@angstrom said:
Is it the same provider in the case of the two instances that you describe above?
In any case, your points are well-taken: in principle, there are a number of variables that play a role.
In my answer above, I was implicitly assumIng the same provider and comparable nodes, the main factor of variation being potentially (very) active neighbors at different times.
Not the same provider. But your answer makes much sense considering your assumptions.
I guess the bottom line is basically go with a good provider. In that case, shared CPU is great, but dedicated will be greater.
The Network, Storage space and RAM are excellent for the price. However, the processor kind of sucks @2.10GHz, as their older offerings have had better clock speed of at-least 2.60GHz in the past.
TL;DR- @seriesn has raised the bar with his ryzen offerings.
@K4Y5 said:
The Network, Storage space and RAM are excellent for the price. However, the processor kind of sucks @2.10GHz, as their older offerings have had better clock speed of at-least 2.60GHz in the past.
TL;DR- @seriesn has raised the bar with his ryzen offerings.
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yeah, he said he will release it, but its a little ex-Pensive, i dont think it will be a success
Find a provider that matches the specs? I'd reckon there aren't that many reputable ones
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For the price, they are likely to be unmatched this Christmas, especially if you are outside Europe and don't need to pay VAT
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I especially like the 4 cores. Usually Netcup throws something with like XX RAM at you but only like 1-2 cores.
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Daaang nice one. I still got the 2 cores 10gb ram 40gb ssd for 18€/3m
Sooo tempting. Also it will likely have nested virtualisation again so you can easily make 3-4 smaller vps. Also interesting for reseller to offer nat server.
I bet it's gone until I have decided ?
The VAT rebate is 20 percent, right?
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time will tell
19%
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Based on today's exchange rate, without VAT it is about 7.52 USD per month. Crazy pricing!
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Does anyone know if it’s possible to run small IPv6 only KVMs on it?
Should be possible with ndppd, right?
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This is a very good deal. I really don’t need it (I keep telling myself I’m happy with the Schnupperspecial) but if you do: go go go. You won’t be disappointed.
Yeah, it's a great deal, but I've decided that I can't buy any further VPSes in 2019
(Not to mention that I got their BF special!)
"A single swap file or partition may be up to 128 MB in size. [...] [I]f you need 256 MB of swap, you can create two 128-MB swap partitions." (M. Welsh & L. Kaufman, Running Linux, 2e, 1996, p. 49)
They don't appear to be dedicated cores though.
They aren’t. Other specials (before BF) were, but this runs on other hardware (so I’ve been told).
In this respect, like their BF special
"A single swap file or partition may be up to 128 MB in size. [...] [I]f you need 256 MB of swap, you can create two 128-MB swap partitions." (M. Welsh & L. Kaufman, Running Linux, 2e, 1996, p. 49)
Are 4 shared cores better than 2 dedicated cores?
I still have one with higher specs but 2 dedicated cores with them.
On average, probably yes, but this may not be the case at any given moment, depending on what one's neighbors are doing at that moment (but I suspect that PHP-Friends will keep an eye out for CPU abusers)
Two dedicated cores are probably a safer bet than four shared cores
"A single swap file or partition may be up to 128 MB in size. [...] [I]f you need 256 MB of swap, you can create two 128-MB swap partitions." (M. Welsh & L. Kaufman, Running Linux, 2e, 1996, p. 49)
I have data where 3 dedicated cores consistently performs worse than 2 fair share cores on multi-core Geekbench. Couple of possible reasons:
Therefore it all depends on how the host node is managed. I say the secret sauce is to know the provider and how they manage. I am a lot happier with my 2 shared cores than 3 dedicated cores.
Of course, it is not easy to get information on how hosts set up their host nodes and balance them. You need to learn by trying and also from asking around. I don't know about CPU shared cores with PHP-Friends because I don't have a service with them to test for an extended period. I have some in testing now for about a week plus and that is why I can tell you that dedicated cores may not mean much.
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Is it the same provider in the case of the two instances that you describe above?
In any case, your points are well-taken: in principle, there are a number of variables that play a role.
In my answer above, I was implicitly assumIng the same provider and comparable nodes, the main factor of variation being potentially (very) active neighbors at different times.
"A single swap file or partition may be up to 128 MB in size. [...] [I]f you need 256 MB of swap, you can create two 128-MB swap partitions." (M. Welsh & L. Kaufman, Running Linux, 2e, 1996, p. 49)
Not the same provider. But your answer makes much sense considering your assumptions.
I guess the bottom line is basically go with a good provider. In that case, shared CPU is great, but dedicated will be greater.
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No benchmarks, but the value based on assessment of specs is pretty good: https://lowendboxes.review/php-friends-winterspecial-vserver-ssd-2019/
This is a quite future-proof VPS with that RAM and storage.
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I recommend PHPFriends, running 3 instances for last 1+ years, they are rock solid.
The Network, Storage space and RAM are excellent for the price. However, the processor kind of sucks @2.10GHz, as their older offerings have had better clock speed of at-least 2.60GHz in the past.
TL;DR- @seriesn has raised the bar with his ryzen offerings.
Benchmark #1 - (YABS)
# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## # # Yet-Another-Bench-Script # # v2019-10-08 # # https://github.com/masonr/yet-another-bench-script # # ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## # Sun Dec 22 04:27:37 CET 2019 Basic System Information: --------------------------------- Processor : Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2620 v2 @ 2.10GHz CPU cores : 4 @ 2100.000 MHz AES-NI : ✔ Enabled VM-x/AMD-V : ✔ Enabled RAM : 9.8G Swap : 0B Disk : 158G Disk Speed Tests: --------------------------------- | Test 1 | Test 2 | Test 3 | Avg | | | | Write | 171.00 MB/s | 175.00 MB/s | 175.00 MB/s | 173.67 MB/s Read | 509.20 MB/s | 532.06 MB/s | 527.29 MB/s | 522.85 MB/s iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv4): --------------------------------- Provider | Location (Link) | Send Speed | Recv Speed | | | Bouygues Telecom | Paris, FR (10G) | 931 Mbits/sec | 865 Mbits/sec Online.net | Paris, FR (10G) | 943 Mbits/sec | 382 Mbits/sec Severius | The Netherlands (10G) | 932 Mbits/sec | 405 Mbits/sec Worldstream | The Netherlands (10G) | 928 Mbits/sec | 796 Mbits/sec wilhelm.tel | Hamburg, DE (10G) | 936 Mbits/sec | 729 Mbits/sec Biznet | Bogor, Indonesia (1G) | busy | busy Hostkey | Moscow, RU (1G) | 933 Mbits/sec | 830 Mbits/sec Velocity Online | Tallahassee, FL, US (10G) | 220 Mbits/sec | 99.7 Mbits/sec Airstream Communications | Eau Claire, WI, US (10G) | 818 Mbits/sec | 139 Mbits/sec Hurricane Electric | Fremont, CA, US (10G) | 825 Mbits/sec | busy iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv6): --------------------------------- Provider | Location (Link) | Send Speed | Recv Speed | | | Bouygues Telecom | Paris, FR (10G) | 931 Mbits/sec | 880 Mbits/sec Online.net | Paris, FR (10G) | 927 Mbits/sec | 494 Mbits/sec Severius | The Netherlands (10G) | 932 Mbits/sec | 389 Mbits/sec Worldstream | The Netherlands (10G) | 926 Mbits/sec | 773 Mbits/sec wilhelm.tel | Hamburg, DE (10G) | 935 Mbits/sec | 699 Mbits/sec Airstream Communications | Eau Claire, WI, US (10G) | 823 Mbits/sec | 138 Mbits/sec Hurricane Electric | Fremont, CA, US (10G) | 789 Mbits/sec | busy Geekbench 4 Benchmark Test: --------------------------------- Test | Value | Single Core | 1995 Multi Core | 5690 Full Test | https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/15061353Benchmark #2 - (Bench Monster)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------- Region: Global https://bench.monster v.1.4.8 2019-12-12 Usage : curl -LsO bench.monster/speedtest.sh; bash speedtest.sh -Global --------------------------------------------------------------------------- OS : Debian GNU/Linux 9 (64 Bit) Virt/Kernel : KVM / 4.9.0-11-amd64 CPU Model : Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2620 v2 @ 2.10GHz CPU Cores : 4 @ 2100.000 MHz x86_64 16384 KB Cache CPU Flags : AES-NI Enabled & VM-x/AMD-V Enabled Load Average : 0.07, 0.34, 0.22 Total Space : 158G (1.2G ~1% used) Total RAM : 70 MB / 10003 MB (237 MB Buff) Total SWAP : 0 MB / 0 MB Uptime : 0 days 0:14 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ASN & ISP : AS44066, First Colo GmbH Organization : PHP Friends Location : Frankfurt am Main, Germany / DE Region : Hesse --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ## Geekbench v4 CPU Benchmark: Single Core : 2196 (FAIR) Multi Core : 5945 ## IO Test CPU Speed: bzip2 : 71.2 MB/s sha256 : 121 MB/s md5sum : 348 MB/s RAM Speed: Avg. write : 1452.3 MB/s Avg. read : 4096.0 MB/s Disk Speed: 1st run : 593 MB/s 2nd run : 588 MB/s 3rd run : 564 MB/s ----------------------- Average : 581.7 MB/s ## Global Speedtest Location Upload Download Ping --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Speedtest.net 644.67 Mbit/s 315.41 Mbit/s 5.626 ms USA, New York (AT&T) 171.79 Mbit/s 98.14 Mbit/s 87.675 ms USA, Chicago (Windstream) 71.44 Mbit/s 61.42 Mbit/s 106.604 ms USA, Dallas (Frontier) 153.90 Mbit/s 58.96 Mbit/s 133.767 ms USA, Miami (Frontier) 176.95 Mbit/s 82.42 Mbit/s 112.605 ms USA, Los Angeles (Spectrum) 105.89 Mbit/s 98.36 Mbit/s 147.822 ms UK, London (Community Fibre) 710.71 Mbit/s 111.41 Mbit/s 15.927 ms France, Lyon (SFR) 630.97 Mbit/s 136.01 Mbit/s 15.147 ms Germany, Berlin (DNS:NET) 671.08 Mbit/s 315.16 Mbit/s 13.754 ms Spain, Madrid (MasMovil) 511.17 Mbit/s 84.87 Mbit/s 25.004 ms Italy, Rome (Unidata) 578.98 Mbit/s 272.33 Mbit/s 22.523 ms Russia, Moscow (MTS) 220.21 Mbit/s 618.52 Mbit/s 36.747 ms Israel, Haifa (013Netvision) 89.02 Mbit/s 175.31 Mbit/s 53.591 ms Singapore (FirstMedia) 57.45 Mbit/s 31.21 Mbit/s 258.234 ms Japan, Tsukuba (SoftEther) 31.77 Mbit/s 32.00 Mbit/s 250.089 ms Australia, Sydney (Yes Optus) 17.06 Mbit/s 19.70 Mbit/s 302.822 ms RSA, Randburg (Cool Ideas) 90.45 Mbit/s 144.45 Mbit/s 198.156 ms Brazil, Sao Paulo (Criare) 18.54 Mbit/s 162.82 Mbit/s 187.896 ms --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Finished in : 10 min 13 sec Timestamp : 2019-12-22 03:50:51 GMT Saved in : /root/speedtest.log Share results: - http://www.speedtest.net/result/8876985422.png - https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/15061365Benchmark #3 - (ServerBench)
Thanks for the kind words boss. We all have our own things that makes us different in our own ways. Php friends offers great resources for the $
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CPU is indeed on weaker side for 4cores
I bench YABS 24/7/365 unless it's a leap year.