BGP communities you’d want with your BGP powered VPS?
Hello everyone,
With 2FA and ISO uploading now rolled out into Stallion I’ll be focusing on our next big addon: BGP sessions. This will allow you to announce your IP space (or if you don’t have any, do load balancing via ECMP of your slice instances).
The big thing I’m wanting to know is what BGP communities would you want access to? The main ones I see so far would be:
- Control which upstream your route goes out of (be it a full allow/deny, or prepends)
- Informational communities to know which upstream it was learned from
- Blackholing an IP address
Do you see a need to prepend against users within the location? So, other customers?
Once we got the communities and such worked out we figure we can get this built out in a couple weeks, depending on how busy I get with the New York upgrades.
Thanks!
Francisco
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BGP load balancing... now that's pod racing
Full community passthrough to upstreams
Set Local Preference - 2 up and down from standard customer local preference
Blackhole
PoP based no exports (don't think this applies to you because you don't Layer 3 between PoPs)
Per upstream/peer:
Do not Advertise
1, 2, 3x prepend
Add no-export
Origin communities
I don't know what the heck you are talking about, but looks great.
Definitely looks great. Even any BGP control would greatly differentiate you vs the others!
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I’d definitely want per upstream prepending/advertisement/exporting control.
Interesting idea, nice to see some advanced features become generally available.
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Pretty much what @Brendan said. This would be a killer feature, keep it up Francisco!
Again, no hard ETA on this since we're working on the Ryzen upgrades in NY but once I get a single session the way I want it (basically communities and such) then the rest is just some database and UI work.
ECMP might get delayed a bit, but I think people want BGP more than that.
Francisco
Out of curiosity, would MT be included in BGP services?
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No. Never.
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Francisco
setting local preference via bgp community would be nice, especially for customers having multiple sessions.
I like the level of informational communities DE-CIX provides, see https://de-cix.net/en/resources/route-server-guides/informational-bgp-communities and the operational communities that go along with it https://de-cix.net/en/resources/route-server-guides/operational-bgp-communities
Same here Bro...only seem to get this idea of that you will be able to announce your ips on their network the automated way.
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This is essentially it in simple terms.
@Francisco out of interest and don't answer if you think its none of my business I understand, do you expect this to be particularly popular or is it just a USP for the more advanced users?
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Honestly, maybe we'll sell a couple hundred VM's throughout all the locations within a year.
We're in 2 unique markets, Las Vegas and Luxembourg, where no one offers BGP sessions (at least not without having to lease a full dedicated or do colocation). That'll draw in all the people wanting to grow their CDN/anycast networks.
Stallion has been stagnant feature wise for quite some time so I've made it a goal to get it up to parity at minimum with the bigger hosts. Backups and Snapshots were a big one. ISO uploading via Stallion is something i'm only aware of Vultr having and a few smaller hosts that scripted something together. 2FA is something we should've had many many years ago, but we at least got it now. BGP is the last big niche thing (short of maybe hosted load balancers I guess).
I think if I was to really chop back what I'd be charging for Magic Transit cost we'd see an explosion in signups for it, but then I think it's going to end up pitting me against Cloudflare's sales team. Why pay their prices when Fran's doing it for a dime behind the McDonalds.
Francisco
Interesting stuff, thanks for the transparency.
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