@AnthonySmith said:
Right... how we are going to physically pick winners was never discussed. so.. erm, @seriesn ?
Hehe, nice After filtering out the invalid entries, put each one on a single line and use random.org to pick the winners ? For example using https://www.random.org/lists/
@AnthonySmith said:
Right... how we are going to physically pick winners was never discussed. so.. erm, @seriesn ?
Hehe, nice After filtering out the invalid entries, put each one on a single line and use random.org to pick the winners ? For example using https://www.random.org/lists/
A drawback of using RANDOM.ORG is that there's no way to prove that the administrator did not run the randomizer more than once.
Pick a time in the future (minute). We will be using the beacon output at that moment.
Publish both the list and the chosen time, before that moment arrives.
After the chosen time, use the beacon output at that time to seed a pseudo random number generator.
Pick winners from that pseudo random number generator.
Since the beacon output is unpredictable before the chosen time, nobody can predict the winner.
On the other hand, it is impossible for the administrator to roll the randomizer twice, because the beacon timestamp is pre-determined.
@AnthonySmith said:
Right... how we are going to physically pick winners was never discussed. so.. erm, @seriesn ?
Hehe, nice After filtering out the invalid entries, put each one on a single line and use random.org to pick the winners ? For example using https://www.random.org/lists/
A drawback of using RANDOM.ORG is that there's no way to prove that the administrator did not run the randomizer more than once.
Pick a time in the future (minute). We will be using the beacon output at that moment.
Publish both the list and the chosen time, before that moment arrives.
After the chosen time, use the beacon output at that time to seed a pseudo random number generator.
Pick winners from that pseudo random number generator.
Since the beacon output is unpredictable before the chosen time, nobody can predict the winner.
On the other hand, it is impossible for the administrator to roll the randomizer twice, because the beacon timestamp is pre-determined.
Great idea @yoursunny but a bit long winded. I trust both @AnthonySmith and @seriesn integrity that if they said this is the list of winners then so be it. Obviously as long as I won ?
@LeonDynamic said:
Great idea @yoursunny but a bit long winded. I trust both @AnthonySmith and @seriesn integrity that if they said this is the list of winners then so be it. Obviously as long as I won ?
We scientists work with what can be proven / verified, i.e. evidence based science.
Faith department is in the church.
@yoursunny said: We scientists work with what can be proven / verified, i.e. evidence based science.
If we rule out trust and faith, how do you suggest I get around the possible issue that you or someone else from this forum in this competition has influence over the NIST Randomness Beacon and can use that to change the results?
Additionally, if you do believe that is possible to prove, how do you prove I used it?
If you suggest a video/screen cap, how do you suggest we get around the issue that I did not doctor the video, it would be trivial to do so?
@AnthonySmith said:
Right... how we are going to physically pick winners was never discussed. so.. erm, @seriesn ?
I am a massive fan of rand function in excel sir. I have a super busy day today. So probably going to tally up and share the results here or privately with you @AnthonySmith
@AnthonySmith said:
Right... how we are going to physically pick winners was never discussed. so.. erm, @seriesn ?
I am a massive fan of rand function in excel sir. I have a super busy day today. So probably going to tally up and share the results here or privately with you @AnthonySmith
works for me, you pick the winners, I take no shit
@AnthonySmith said:
Right... how we are going to physically pick winners was never discussed. so.. erm, @seriesn ?
I am a massive fan of rand function in excel sir. I have a super busy day today. So probably going to tally up and share the results here or privately with you @AnthonySmith
works for me, you pick the winners, I take no shit
I mean for what it is, you are the one who is going to end up with the biggest payout ??
@AnthonySmith said:
Right... how we are going to physically pick winners was never discussed. so.. erm, @seriesn ?
I am a massive fan of rand function in excel sir. I have a super busy day today. So probably going to tally up and share the results here or privately with you @AnthonySmith
works for me, you pick the winners, I take no shit
I mean for what it is, you are the one who is going to end up with the biggest payout ??
@AnthonySmith said:
Right... how we are going to physically pick winners was never discussed. so.. erm, @seriesn ?
I am a massive fan of rand function in excel sir. I have a super busy day today. So probably going to tally up and share the results here or privately with you @AnthonySmith
works for me, you pick the winners, I take no shit
I mean for what it is, you are the one who is going to end up with the biggest payout ??
@yoursunny said: We scientists work with what can be proven / verified, i.e. evidence based science.
If we rule out trust and faith, how do you suggest I get around the possible issue that you or someone else from this forum in this competition has influence over the NIST Randomness Beacon and can use that to change the results?
I met the designers of the NIST Randomness Beacon and asked a question similar to this. Their answer is that, you can aggregate the results of multiple randomness beacons controlled in different countries by different agencies. It is improbable that all of these beacons are compromised.
Additionally, if you do believe that is possible to prove, how do you prove I used it?
You publish the list of "raffle tickets" and the chosen beacon timestamp, and define the algorithm.
When the timestamp arrives and the beacon output is publish, everyone can use the algorithm to compute the results.
Thus, you only need to prove that the publication occurs before the beacon timestamp.
One way to do this is through the blockchain. For example:
Compute a SHA256 digest of the publication.
Make a DNS subdomain entry that contains the digest.
Request a TLS certificate for this subdomain.
The digest is now permanently logged in Certificate Transparency blockchains.
If you suggest a video/screen cap, how do you suggest we get around the issue that I did not doctor the video, it would be trivial to do so?
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Hehe, nice
After filtering out the invalid entries, put each one on a single line and use random.org to pick the winners 
? For example using https://www.random.org/lists/
Pick random page, pick random (valid) comment per page for each winner. Repeat for all prizes ?
Then just PM me my prize ?
That will work I guess, should be quick, am I going to have to screen cap for validation or will I be trusted?
Either way, I will wait for @seriesn to wake up, the sun should be rising for him about now.
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Trust in Ant ?
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A drawback of using RANDOM.ORG is that there's no way to prove that the administrator did not run the randomizer more than once.
A more trustworthy method is to use the NIST Randomness Beacon:
Since the beacon output is unpredictable before the chosen time, nobody can predict the winner.
On the other hand, it is impossible for the administrator to roll the randomizer twice, because the beacon timestamp is pre-determined.
And you don't have faith in @seriesn and @AnthonySmith to cheat like that?
Great idea @yoursunny but a bit long winded. I trust both @AnthonySmith and @seriesn integrity that if they said this is the list of winners then so be it. Obviously as long as I won ?
Well with all the none entry comments, there is at least a fair chance I have to run whatever we do more than once anyway
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We scientists work with what can be proven / verified, i.e. evidence based science.
Faith department is in the church.
If we rule out trust and faith, how do you suggest I get around the possible issue that you or someone else from this forum in this competition has influence over the NIST Randomness Beacon and can use that to change the results?
Additionally, if you do believe that is possible to prove, how do you prove I used it?
If you suggest a video/screen cap, how do you suggest we get around the issue that I did not doctor the video, it would be trivial to do so?
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I am a massive fan of rand function in excel sir. I have a super busy day today. So probably going to tally up and share the results here or privately with you @AnthonySmith
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works for me, you pick the winners, I take no shit
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I mean for what it is, you are the one who is going to end up with the biggest payout ??
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gets paid out regardless of who wins
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lol, just don't ;-)
I met the designers of the NIST Randomness Beacon and asked a question similar to this. Their answer is that, you can aggregate the results of multiple randomness beacons controlled in different countries by different agencies. It is improbable that all of these beacons are compromised.
Thus, you only need to prove that the publication occurs before the beacon timestamp.
One way to do this is through the blockchain. For example:
You do not need a screenshot.
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AHH! Guys, sorry for the delay. First week of the month is usually super busy for me.
How did I pick the winner?
How many eligible entry?
Anything else?
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