Hetzner now blocks port 8444, rip chia miners

Fairly simple to get around this, but you need some knowledge setting up vpns and forward some ports and stuff. Lets hope people cancel their storage servers so legit users can use them instead of miners.

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  • Any official word about this? Can't seem to find it.

  • edited May 2021

    Good. :relieved:
    VPS for mining is the ultimate dick move.
    We all know, VPSes are meant for idle.

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  • @Freek said: Any official word about this? Can't seem to find it.

    Yes, see discussion and links in cest pit yesterday.

  • Last week it was 50-100TB storage requests.

    Brace for a sudden influx of How do I setup server-to-server VPN for 'privacy'? posts. 😝

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  • @vimalware said:
    Last week it was 50-100TB storage requests.

    Brace for a sudden influx of How do I setup server-to-server VPN for 'privacy'? posts. 😝

    Pretty sure without any random noise, you could detect if the vpn is used for mining.
    Just need to search for a specific pattern using that vpn software.

  • First they blocked port 10080 for NAT slipstream
    And I did not speak out
    Because I did not use port 10080
    
    Then they blocked port 3389 for Windows remote desktop
    And I did not speak out
    Because I did not use port 3389
    
    Then they blocked port 25 for emails
    And I did not speak out
    Because I did not use port 25
    
    Then they blocked port 8444 for Chia farming
    And I did not speak out
    Because I did not use port 8444
    
    Then they blocked port 6363 that I use to deliver push-ups
    And there was no one left
    To speak out for me
    
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  • Chia mining? Nah, better stick with chia farming:

  • @yoursunny said:

    I’m sure you don’t mean it this way, but now you’re comparing blocking a port to prevent abuse with the Second World War and the Shoah. Not very classy.

    On topic: although blocking port 8444 does not completely prevent abuse by chia plotting, it is low hanging fruit and will certainly give a signal to people renting a Hetzner dedi for this. People getting around this certainly can’t play the nescience card anymore.

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  • @willie said:

    @Freek said: Any official word about this? Can't seem to find it.

    Yes, see discussion and links in cest pit yesterday.

    Link for those interested as well: https://talk.lowendspirit.com/discussion/comment/64577/#Comment_64577

  • @vimalware said:
    Last week it was 50-100TB storage requests.

    Brace for a sudden influx of How do I setup server-to-server VPN for 'privacy'? posts. 😝

    Lol, you called it, here is the first one. 'for Plex'.... https://www.reddit.com/r/selfhosted/comments/nie4xt/help_tunnelling_local_plex_to_hetzner_vps/

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  • @Freek said:

    @vimalware said:
    Last week it was 50-100TB storage requests.

    Brace for a sudden influx of How do I setup server-to-server VPN for 'privacy'? posts. 😝

    Lol, you called it, here is the first one. 'for Plex'.... https://www.reddit.com/r/selfhosted/comments/nie4xt/help_tunnelling_local_plex_to_hetzner_vps/

    Lol

  • Chia miners are starting to realize it's not profitable at all and are giving up. Finally, at least one piece of hardware back to normal prices soon I hope.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/chia/comments/nir94e/gave_up_on_chia/

    https://www.reddit.com/r/chia/comments/nin9iu/this_sucks_more_than_60_of_the_network_is_run_by/

  • williewillie OG
    edited May 2021

    centralcomputers.com

    Looks like hdd's are still plentiful and stores are advertising to chia farmers. Prices might be up a little but nothing drastic.

  • edited May 2021

    @Freek said:
    Chia miners are starting to realize it's not profitable at all and are giving up. Finally, at least one piece of hardware back to normal prices soon I hope.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/chia/comments/nir94e/gave_up_on_chia/

    https://www.reddit.com/r/chia/comments/nin9iu/this_sucks_more_than_60_of_the_network_is_run_by/

    Haha, from one of those threads

    Anybody starting now with less than a half PiB has a low chance of getting a decent amount of Chia.
    I've got 1700 plots, have not won a Chia in 15 days and my time to win is 12 days and increases daily.

    I also gave up, even though I was only curious. Initially wanted to plot some at home and farm on storage VPS. For the amount I had in mind, chiacalculator went from 4-5 months to win to 4+ years to win, in less than a week. Yeah, no thanks.

  • martijnkmartijnk Hosting Provider
    edited May 2021

    @Freek said:
    Chia miners are starting to realize it's not profitable at all and are giving up. Finally, at least one piece of hardware back to normal prices soon I hope.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/chia/comments/nir94e/gave_up_on_chia/

    https://www.reddit.com/r/chia/comments/nin9iu/this_sucks_more_than_60_of_the_network_is_run_by/

    People are so naïve. Some of them invested tens of thousands in hardware and most of them are still in denial and say Chia will be worth 5K, 10K, 20K soon and try to convince each other to hang on to their coins. It's fun to see all the tears on Reddit. People believing in free and easy money and are now disappointed there's no such thing. Really?

    Anyway I really need some hard drives for legit use, I hope prices will return back to normal soon. I'm already scared of what's next though. Proof of ram, Proof of bandwidth?

    I know it's not a popular opinion, but I hope this entire crypto thing will end rather sooner than later.

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  • edited May 2021

    I am kicking myself for not picking up one of 8TB Seagate expansion/hub external drives that had EXOS drives inside. (at around a 20% discount to the Exos themselves)

    PS: Nope. Not for chia BS

  • What are exos drives? I'm used to seagate externals containing shitty SMR drives.

  • martijnk said:
    I'm already scared of what's next though. Proof of ram, Proof of bandwidth?

    Proof of IPv4, then suddenly everyone will request small VPS with dedicated IP.

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  • Proof of recognizing traffic lights and bicycles... oh wait google did that.

  • edited May 2021

    @kuroneko23 said: .. everyone will request small VPS with dedicated IP.

    Virmach! (Cough.)

    lowendinfo.com had no interest.

  • Guys, it's for a friend of mine.

    How do I setup server-to-server VPN for privacy?

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    I think the real money is/was selling hardware to the miners not the actual mining itself.

  • @deank said:
    Guys, it's for a friend of mine.

    How do I setup server-to-server VPN for privacy?

    I asked a friend and he said tinc probably is a quick and easy way and also works for more than one farm... I mean... box ;-)

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  • @Freek said:

    Chia miners are starting to realize it's not profitable at all and are giving up

    Told ya

    https://talk.lowendspirit.com/discussion/comment/64067#Comment_64067

  • @martijnk said:
    I'm already scared of what's next though. Proof of ram, Proof of bandwidth?

    From SummerHoax Club™:
    SWAP is an amazin' technology that allows you to magically turn your hard drive into ram!

    @kuroneko23 said:
    Proof of IPv4, then suddenly everyone will request small VPS with dedicated IP.

    Proof of IPv9.
    I have a lot of them.

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    @yoursunny said:

    From SummerHoax Club™:
    SWAP is an amazin' technology that allows you to magically turn your hard drive into ram!

    The linked site is really funny! Recommended reading if, like me, you haven't seen it yet! 😍

    Part of me is tempted to try setting up something like that!

    Oh! Never mind! I already did it! 💖

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  • @willie said:
    What are exos drives? I'm used to seagate externals containing shitty SMR drives.

    Enterprise grade helium filled drives. I have two of them. Overkill for personal use but that's my middle name.

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  • edited May 2021

    https://www.reddit.com/r/chia/comments/nkjyiw/i_quit/

    Here's the best part of that post:

    I know some of you are doing it for fun but not everyone has a good financial condition to waste hundreds of dollars on hardware.

    Ah yes, can't wait to buy some cheap large capacity second hand drives for my NAS.

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