@poisson said:
You don't need to list arch. Their users will tell you they use arch without you asking them.
LOL. And honestly, it'd be stupid as hell to run arch on a server.
Some providers provides them as an option, so I wonder
Well honestly, I'll provide whatever a client wants, and I have had requests for Arch. I provide an ISO if they want to install it, but I sure as hell don't recommend it. Too many updates break stuff. I mean I use it on my laptop, because I love bleeding-edge stuff - but i'd never use it on a server.
Is there a special reason for you using Fedora?
Something that makes is special for you? Or is it "just" what you are used too?
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@poisson said:
You don't need to list arch. Their users will tell you they use arch without you asking them.
LOL. And honestly, it'd be stupid as hell to run arch on a server.
Some providers provides them as an option, so I wonder
Well honestly, I'll provide whatever a client wants, and I have had requests for Arch. I provide an ISO if they want to install it, but I sure as hell don't recommend it. Too many updates break stuff. I mean I use it on my laptop, because I love bleeding-edge stuff - but i'd never use it on a server.
I bought into the hype back in 2014 or so and my arch install breaks every day or two after I run pacman -Syu.
Back to Debian I guess.
I run elementaryOS as my desktop. On VPSes, it's always debian.
Ubuntu's LTS is what made the switch to 'Linux as daily-driver', possible for me (2006)
I run Ubuntu LTS on most servers as well : Access to lots of readymade PPAs , 5 years of security patches, recent enough software versions for almost any server runtimes.
2 or 3 storage-only servers run a minimal Debian Stable + ufw.
I run variously Debian, Devuan, Slackware, and Ubuntu MATE.
I've become fond of Devuan, and I'm hoping that the next stable release won't take many more months.
I may decide to leave Slackware in the near future.
I like Ubuntu MATE because it's probably the nicest instance of MATE, which is the desktop that I prefer.
And Debian, of course.
"A single swap file or partition may be up to 128 MB in size. [...] [I]f you need 256 MB of swap, you can create two 128-MB swap partitions." (M. Welsh & L. Kaufman, Running Linux, 2e, 1996, p. 49)
@WSS said:
Debian-fork for general production; Alpine for specific single tasks.
No more Void?
"A single swap file or partition may be up to 128 MB in size. [...] [I]f you need 256 MB of swap, you can create two 128-MB swap partitions." (M. Welsh & L. Kaufman, Running Linux, 2e, 1996, p. 49)
@WSS said:
Debian-fork for general production; Alpine for specific single tasks.
No more Void?
I run Void as a desktop; Devuan for my KVM Hypervisor, and Alpine for NS/Backup MX; OpenBSD on my low-RAM play/proxy/IRC box. I used to be a big FreeBSD guy back in the day, but I agree that 4.x went in the wrong direction. DragonFlyBSD doesn't fit my needs, or I'd probably play with it more.
So we overlap with Devuan. I've been running it on a VPS.
"A single swap file or partition may be up to 128 MB in size. [...] [I]f you need 256 MB of swap, you can create two 128-MB swap partitions." (M. Welsh & L. Kaufman, Running Linux, 2e, 1996, p. 49)
So we overlap with Devuan. I've been running it on a VPS.
Yep. It's Debian without the stupid, but it does take awhile to catch up. Works great as a drop-in replacement for KVM and Debian-style Apache services. If I ever decide to dump Apache, I'd probably set that up under an Alpine KVM and rebuild; I like it's low RAM use, but having Debian (Devuan) as my hypervisor just makes it a lot easier to care and feed for. I tried KVM services under Alpine, Void, and CentOS, but I hated it, despite most KVMs I deal with are CentOS based.
My pronouns are asshole/asshole/asshole. I will give you the same courtesy.
@WSS said:
I run Void as a desktop; Devuan for my KVM Hypervisor, and Alpine for NS/Backup MX; OpenBSD on my low-RAM play/proxy/IRC box. I used to be a big FreeBSD guy back in the day, but I agree that 4.x went in the wrong direction. DragonFlyBSD doesn't fit my needs, or I'd probably play with it more.
Never heard of Void, I guess I'm not paying too much attention ...
But how's the OpenBSD httpd?
Haven't tested Devuan, must be quite some work to keep developing debian stuff without all the systemd deps ...
@WSS said:
I run Void as a desktop; Devuan for my KVM Hypervisor, and Alpine for NS/Backup MX; OpenBSD on my low-RAM play/proxy/IRC box. I used to be a big FreeBSD guy back in the day, but I agree that 4.x went in the wrong direction. DragonFlyBSD doesn't fit my needs, or I'd probably play with it more.
Never heard of Void, I guess I'm not paying too much attention ...
But how's the OpenBSD httpd?
Haven't tested Devuan, must be quite some work to keep developing debian stuff without all the systemd deps ...
Void is very NetBSD-like. It was created basically as a proof-of-concept of the authors' package management system (A former NetBSD developer). The installation is text-mode, and you need to remember to create /boot/efi for newer boxes as a vfat/fat32, but otherwise it's not all that different than Arch as a rolling distribution, but the init system is daemontools-inspired. /var/service and so forth- not init, and not systemd. If you've never used djb software, this will be incredibly bizarre and foreign to you.
It makes a decent desktop with lower spec hardware/RAM - I'm rocking it on an 8 year old laptop as a daily. This is with Cinnamon, Thunderbird, Gimp, Chrome (with 8 windows), and a handful of terminal windows.
$ free -h
total used free shared buff/cache available
Mem: 15Gi 2.9Gi 2.6Gi 699Mi 9Gi 11Gi
Swap: 7.3Gi 22Mi 7.2Gi
I'm actually using thttpd on OpenBSD because it just serves semi-static and cgi-based stuff. 64MB total isn't enough for the box and httpd to be happy.
NixOS. I love the declarative configuration. I recently switched servers and all I had to do was copy the one configuration file, run nixos-rebuild switch and I was done. It's not foolproof, but man, it has cut down my administrative work so much, it's not even funny.
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I don't really like Linux, I like FreeBSD.
The best is definitely the upcoming LESbian
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I guess you want to have LESbian on a whole rack.
Yes!
But the floor should have EtherChannel waterchannel
One rack? Give me a DC
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Alpine, yes! How did I miss it in the poll?
The all seeing eye sees everything...
@terrorgen dunno, probably you did not see the forest from the trees
LOL. And honestly, it'd be stupid as hell to run arch on a server.
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Some providers provides them as an option, so I wonder
The all seeing eye sees everything...
Well honestly, I'll provide whatever a client wants, and I have had requests for Arch. I provide an ISO if they want to install it, but I sure as hell don't recommend it. Too many updates break stuff. I mean I use it on my laptop, because I love bleeding-edge stuff - but i'd never use it on a server.
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Debian and Ubuntu
Have always used Fedora since 2010s.
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Is there a special reason for you using Fedora?
Something that makes is special for you? Or is it "just" what you are used too?
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Certified braindead since 1974 and still perfectly happy.
I bought into the hype back in 2014 or so and my arch install breaks every day or two after I run pacman -Syu.
Back to Debian I guess.
I run elementaryOS as my desktop. On VPSes, it's always debian.
The all seeing eye sees everything...
Debian-fork for general production; Alpine for specific single tasks.
My pronouns are asshole/asshole/asshole. I will give you the same courtesy.
Ubuntu's LTS is what made the switch to 'Linux as daily-driver', possible for me (2006)
I run Ubuntu LTS on most servers as well : Access to lots of readymade PPAs , 5 years of security patches, recent enough software versions for almost any server runtimes.
2 or 3 storage-only servers run a minimal Debian Stable + ufw.
From those on the list, Debian. I mainly use it for personal servers. Otherwise, CentOS where needed.
For desktop, I usually choose Linux Mint. Last few months, I have been eye-ing Deepin, it's interface looks nice.
Get some hosting at https://drserver.net .
It was the very first unix distro I started to use.
It works, so why change?
Besides, I did like the name and the fact that it is a fork of Red Hat unix which I used few times before Fedora.
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I run variously Debian, Devuan, Slackware, and Ubuntu MATE.
I've become fond of Devuan, and I'm hoping that the next stable release won't take many more months.
I may decide to leave Slackware in the near future.
I like Ubuntu MATE because it's probably the nicest instance of MATE, which is the desktop that I prefer.
And Debian, of course.
"A single swap file or partition may be up to 128 MB in size. [...] [I]f you need 256 MB of swap, you can create two 128-MB swap partitions." (M. Welsh & L. Kaufman, Running Linux, 2e, 1996, p. 49)
No more Void?
"A single swap file or partition may be up to 128 MB in size. [...] [I]f you need 256 MB of swap, you can create two 128-MB swap partitions." (M. Welsh & L. Kaufman, Running Linux, 2e, 1996, p. 49)
I run Void as a desktop; Devuan for my KVM Hypervisor, and Alpine for NS/Backup MX; OpenBSD on my low-RAM play/proxy/IRC box. I used to be a big FreeBSD guy back in the day, but I agree that 4.x went in the wrong direction. DragonFlyBSD doesn't fit my needs, or I'd probably play with it more.
My pronouns are asshole/asshole/asshole. I will give you the same courtesy.
So we overlap with Devuan. I've been running it on a VPS.
"A single swap file or partition may be up to 128 MB in size. [...] [I]f you need 256 MB of swap, you can create two 128-MB swap partitions." (M. Welsh & L. Kaufman, Running Linux, 2e, 1996, p. 49)
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Yep. It's Debian without the stupid, but it does take awhile to catch up. Works great as a drop-in replacement for KVM and Debian-style Apache services. If I ever decide to dump Apache, I'd probably set that up under an Alpine KVM and rebuild; I like it's low RAM use, but having Debian (Devuan) as my hypervisor just makes it a lot easier to care and feed for. I tried KVM services under Alpine, Void, and CentOS, but I hated it, despite most KVMs I deal with are CentOS based.
My pronouns are asshole/asshole/asshole. I will give you the same courtesy.
Never heard of Void, I guess I'm not paying too much attention ...
But how's the OpenBSD httpd?
Haven't tested Devuan, must be quite some work to keep developing debian stuff without all the systemd deps ...
Void is very NetBSD-like. It was created basically as a proof-of-concept of the authors' package management system (A former NetBSD developer). The installation is text-mode, and you need to remember to create /boot/efi for newer boxes as a vfat/fat32, but otherwise it's not all that different than Arch as a rolling distribution, but the init system is daemontools-inspired. /var/service and so forth- not init, and not systemd. If you've never used djb software, this will be incredibly bizarre and foreign to you.
It makes a decent desktop with lower spec hardware/RAM - I'm rocking it on an 8 year old laptop as a daily. This is with Cinnamon, Thunderbird, Gimp, Chrome (with 8 windows), and a handful of terminal windows.
$ free -h total used free shared buff/cache available Mem: 15Gi 2.9Gi 2.6Gi 699Mi 9Gi 11Gi Swap: 7.3Gi 22Mi 7.2GiI'm actually using thttpd on OpenBSD because it just serves semi-static and cgi-based stuff. 64MB total isn't enough for the box and httpd to be happy.
My pronouns are asshole/asshole/asshole. I will give you the same courtesy.
I tried setting up i3 on void. Guess it was too much of an uphill task to do.
The all seeing eye sees everything...
Pick a prebuilt distro for your window manager; getting all of the services started manually is a daunting task.
My pronouns are asshole/asshole/asshole. I will give you the same courtesy.
NixOS. I love the declarative configuration. I recently switched servers and all I had to do was copy the one configuration file, run
nixos-rebuild switchand I was done. It's not foolproof, but man, it has cut down my administrative work so much, it's not even funny.It's pronounced hacker.
Yet I chose i3, which is not prebuilt, lol
The all seeing eye sees everything...