@gebilaowang said:
Add that I found more than one aff link, and they all appear to bypass the prompt page. For example, an aff sent by someone on March 13, the pre-sale time, also points to the internal activities of LES and has no prompt.
FWIW, I agree with you. Anyone posting aff links to the sale should have their accounts banned. They are the ones really causing the problem.
@gebilaowang said:
Add that I found more than one aff link, and they all appear to bypass the prompt page. For example, an aff sent by someone on March 13, the pre-sale time, also points to the internal activities of LES and has no prompt.
FWIW, I agree with you. Anyone posting aff links to the sale should have their accounts banned. They are the ones really causing the problem.
I agree, but it's not possible because only @VirMach knows their info, and their promotion is allowed, we buy through the link, and @VirMach will pay them accordingly.
I agree, but it's not possible because only @VirMach knows their info, and their promotion is allowed, we buy through the link, and @VirMach will pay them accordingly.
Okay, to be fair, buying through a completely unknown rando affiliate link is probably not a Good Plan (tm) either. You can protect yourself by just not doing this. You truly are equally at fault ( just my opinion ).
Go to control panel and reinstall. It may be fixed now but when I tried to install Debian 11, I got that error because of some trouble with the installer. I installed Debian 10 instead and then upgraded with apt-get, and that worked.
But no matter what OS I use, it's the same result.
Thanks.
@gebilaowang said: So, I still hope that the person in charge of @VirMach company should be aware of the emergence of this problem. And can tell you that the so-called exclusive offer links are now being moved to other sites by people in this forum. If you can read Chinese, you can go to the following link to check, of course, you may be able to use a text translator.
I mean we've always had this problem. Anyone can link anything they want on the internet and claim for it to be whatever they say, at that point it's up to the user to verify the information. For example if I randomly linked https://billing.virmach.com/cart.php?a=add&pid=199&billingcycle=biennially somewhere then you wouldn't see the information on the offer page (https://virmach.com/special-offers/) or this thread where it states it's for LES members. However, you also wouldn't see what you're even buying. It just says Special 768. What if it's a 768MB bandwidth special? You just don't know then.
Or people can still lie and make claims such as it's the 768MB special with 200GB disk and 10TB bandwidth, or omit details to make it sound better or worse.
I agree, but it's not possible because only @VirMach knows their info, and their promotion is allowed, we buy through the link, and @VirMach will pay them accordingly.
Okay, to be fair, buying through a completely unknown rando affiliate link is probably not a Good Plan (tm) either. You can protect yourself by just not doing this. You truly are equally at fault ( just my opinion ).
This is a very common purchase method, almost all VPS providers have aff, and it can correctly navigate to the official website of the VPS merchant.This means that it is officially recognized and successfully paid through it to the VPS merchant's account and not someone else's account.
@AlwaysSkint said:
However, when doing a yum update and with another ssh session, the screen & session froze. That's an indication of some packet loss. I don't have a Japanese IP offhand, to try an MTR, for closer inspection. Flagging @Virmach though he may already be aware of any issues there and things are likely to settle down anyway.
HTH
Yes, thanks for confirm that... I see some packet loss and high cpu steal ( i'm not sure but this node is new? )
Graph have white spaces because packet loss... So i know its not my VPS only :-) ... I know @VirMach eventually fix this.
I spent way too much time on this. It's definitely a combination of things but in the end just essentially disabling ebtables got everything fixed... I'm speaking with SolusVM as I don't want to spend any more time trying to understand why that would cause all this. I have a few guesses in my head but I was completely surprised by this end result.
It may of course have to do with how the network equipment configuration affects it as well, but wow.
@Mason said:
Alright... I think I got this thread somewhat cleaned up. If you notice your comment is gone, then I deemed it part of the derail-a-thon that occurred over the last few hours.
The word of the day today is:
Patience
If you posted your order # / invoice #, great! Wait for activation or some other communication from @VirMach. This is not a support system so posting Ticket #'s will not get you expedited help -- in fact, I'm pretty sure it'll do the opposite and you'll find yourself at the bottom of the queue.
If you ordered the product here from an affiliate link that didn't state the requirements to be a LES user and post the information here, just post your order/invoice # and wait. Instruct anyone else that ordered through those links to do the same. I can't speak for @VirMach, but I don't see why your ordered wouldn't be processed and activated as normal. Just be patient.
Approving a bunch of new registrations and reopening this now, let's see how this goes. In general, we rely on community/self-moderation, but when that devolves into "shut up", "no, you shut up", then the badmins have to step in and mop up the mess. So let's try to keep it clean, y'all
So, I still hope that the person in charge of @virmach company should be aware of the emergence of this problem. And can tell you that the so-called exclusive offer links are now being moved to other sites by people in this forum. If you can read Chinese, you can go to the following link to check, of course, you may be able to use a text translator. https://hostloc.com/thread-999293-1-1.html
@Mason said:
Alright... I think I got this thread somewhat cleaned up. If you notice your comment is gone, then I deemed it part of the derail-a-thon that occurred over the last few hours.
The word of the day today is:
Patience
If you posted your order # / invoice #, great! Wait for activation or some other communication from @VirMach. This is not a support system so posting Ticket #'s will not get you expedited help -- in fact, I'm pretty sure it'll do the opposite and you'll find yourself at the bottom of the queue.
If you ordered the product here from an affiliate link that didn't state the requirements to be a LES user and post the information here, just post your order/invoice # and wait. Instruct anyone else that ordered through those links to do the same. I can't speak for @VirMach, but I don't see why your ordered wouldn't be processed and activated as normal. Just be patient.
Approving a bunch of new registrations and reopening this now, let's see how this goes. In general, we rely on community/self-moderation, but when that devolves into "shut up", "no, you shut up", then the badmins have to step in and mop up the mess. So let's try to keep it clean, y'all
So, I still hope that the person in charge of @virmach company should be aware of the emergence of this problem. And can tell you that the so-called exclusive offer links are now being moved to other sites by people in this forum. If you can read Chinese, you can go to the following link to check, of course, you may be able to use a text translator. https://hostloc.com/thread-999293-1-1.html
I hope @virmach takes a good look at his own order system and not someone else insulting me and calling me stupid.
I understand your frustration and am also disappointed the sale was shared elsewhere (even though it literally says in the post copied to hostloc to not post it elsewhere). But if anyone read that post on hostloc (or elsewhere) and didn't realize they had to register and post their order information here to get it activated, then that is completely on the buyer for not paying closer attention.
Having only the affiliates order link with no other information is a different story as I agree, it'd be good to either disable aff sales on the exclusive product range entirely or add some kind of checkbox linking to the original rules and asking if you've read them.
I think so too, but there is indeed a problem with the aff link I mentioned, they didn't add any hints, which caused problems with subsequent activations, and now the situation is that all people who buy through aff should not have See the order number mentioned by @virmach. I believe you also found that not only me, but also some people in the comments on the LES forum can only issue their own invoices, because they did not record the order number.
I don't think this should put the blame on the customer, we are victims too. Hopefully it will be handled properly in the end instead of "we don't care about information other than order number".
If people outside the forum are not allowed to participate, I think it should at least be highlighted on the sales page, instead of adding an unsafe link to jump to, so that those of us don't pay attention to this prompt when buying. (Unsafe here means that the prompt page in the middle will be skipped.)
Sorry I'm real busy and I'm only barely skimming over these messages here, I'm not going to provide any response really right now outside of I recommend anyone in a situation where they did not follow the offer rules for whatever reason tries their best not to detract from the offer rules any further by constantly bringing it up or messaging me everywhere, or making tickets, or spamming other invoice ID information.
And I recommend they be very very very patient as it means they probably extended their activation time by days to weeks, and lost any guarantee of it being activated. But also don't freak out, we're not going to intentionally screw anyone over.
It will just have to be done at the end of everything else when I have time to correct them.
I agree, but it's not possible because only @VirMach knows their info, and their promotion is allowed, we buy through the link, and @VirMach will pay them accordingly.
Okay, to be fair, buying through a completely unknown rando affiliate link is probably not a Good Plan (tm) either. You can protect yourself by just not doing this. You truly are equally at fault ( just my opinion ).
This is a very common purchase method, almost all VPS providers have aff, and it can correctly navigate to the official website of the VPS merchant.This means that it is officially recognized and successfully paid through it to the VPS merchant's account and not someone else's account.
Do you have one of these links so I can see what you mean? And how do you know what you are buying from the merchant if you skipped the page on the merchant's website verifying the specifications, etc? Not necessarily you specifically, you as in any person who follows the link.
@gebilaowang said: So, I still hope that the person in charge of @VirMach company should be aware of the emergence of this problem. And can tell you that the so-called exclusive offer links are now being moved to other sites by people in this forum. If you can read Chinese, you can go to the following link to check, of course, you may be able to use a text translator.
I mean we've always had this problem. Anyone can link anything they want on the internet and claim for it to be whatever they say, at that point it's up to the user to verify the information. For example if I randomly linked https://billing.virmach.com/cart.php?a=add&pid=199&billingcycle=biennially somewhere then you wouldn't see the information on the offer page (https://virmach.com/special-offers/) or this thread where it states it's for LES members. However, you also wouldn't see what you're even buying. It just says Special 768. What if it's a 768MB bandwidth special? You just don't know then.
Or people can still lie and make claims such as it's the 768MB special with 200GB disk and 10TB bandwidth, or omit details to make it sound better or worse.
So what do you think about this.I did buy the product you also marked on the invoice.
I agree, but it's not possible because only @VirMach knows their info, and their promotion is allowed, we buy through the link, and @VirMach will pay them accordingly.
Okay, to be fair, buying through a completely unknown rando affiliate link is probably not a Good Plan (tm) either. You can protect yourself by just not doing this. You truly are equally at fault ( just my opinion ).
This is a very common purchase method, almost all VPS providers have aff, and it can correctly navigate to the official website of the VPS merchant.This means that it is officially recognized and successfully paid through it to the VPS merchant's account and not someone else's account.
Do you have one of these links so I can see what you mean? And how do you know what you are buying from the merchant if you skipped the page on the merchant's website verifying the specifications, etc? Not necessarily you specifically, you as in any person who follows the link.
I have not made any aff links in any VPS service provider myself, but I know that the VPS service provider will give them some extra benefits (such as rebates) when purchasing through aff, that's all.
I have not made any aff links in any VPS service provider myself, but I know that the VPS service provider will give them some extra benefits (such as rebates) when purchasing through aff, that's all.
He's asking for an example aff link like you posted earlier. Pull one from hostloc to show him?
I have not made any aff links in any VPS service provider myself, but I know that the VPS service provider will give them some extra benefits (such as rebates) when purchasing through aff, that's all.
He's asking for an example aff link like you posted earlier. Pull one from hostloc to show him?
EDIT: typo
I didn't understand the last paragraph you said. . . Pull one from hostloc to show him?
The modification date of this link is March 13, and the direct link will also skip the prompt and make the payment smoothly. https://p3terx.com/archives/cheap-vps-virmach-tokyo.html
@gebilaowang said:
I didn't understand the last paragraph you said. . . Pull one from hostloc to show him?
The modification date of this link is March 13, and the direct link will also skip the prompt and make the payment smoothly. https://p3terx.com/archives/cheap-vps-virmach-tokyo.html
you joking right, why are you demanding Virmach to be responsible for a chinese website as though it was him who made that page?
i can make a webpage too with my aff link and say free coffee for one year with each VPS purchase
I have not made any aff links in any VPS service provider myself, but I know that the VPS service provider will give them some extra benefits (such as rebates) when purchasing through aff, that's all.
He's asking for an example aff link like you posted earlier. Pull one from hostloc to show him?
EDIT: typo
I didn't understand the last paragraph you said. . . Pull one from hostloc to show him?
@gebilaowang said:
I didn't understand the last paragraph you said. . . Pull one from hostloc to show him?
The modification date of this link is March 13, and the direct link will also skip the prompt and make the payment smoothly. https://p3terx.com/archives/cheap-vps-virmach-tokyo.html
you joking right, why are you demanding Virmach to be responsible for a chinese website as though it was him who made that page?
i can make a webpage too with my aff link and say free coffee for one year with each VPS purchase
you are so funny!
be serious now, who paid you to make jokes here?
I'm just a novice, I just understood what this means. That is to say, all products purchased by aff are not responsible. Anyway, I did not write any configuration.
I have not made any aff links in any VPS service provider myself, but I know that the VPS service provider will give them some extra benefits (such as rebates) when purchasing through aff, that's all.
He's asking for an example aff link like you posted earlier. Pull one from hostloc to show him?
EDIT: typo
I didn't understand the last paragraph you said. . . Pull one from hostloc to show him?
@gebilaowang said:
I didn't understand the last paragraph you said. . . Pull one from hostloc to show him?
The modification date of this link is March 13, and the direct link will also skip the prompt and make the payment smoothly. https://p3terx.com/archives/cheap-vps-virmach-tokyo.html
you joking right, why are you demanding Virmach to be responsible for a chinese website as though it was him who made that page?
i can make a webpage too with my aff link and say free coffee for one year with each VPS purchase
you are so funny!
be serious now, who paid you to make jokes here?
I'm just a novice, I just understood what this means. That is to say, all products purchased by aff are not responsible. Anyway, I did not write any configuration.
Please understand, I didn't quite understand the principle of aff until he said so.
I have not made any aff links in any VPS service provider myself, but I know that the VPS service provider will give them some extra benefits (such as rebates) when purchasing through aff, that's all.
He's asking for an example aff link like you posted earlier. Pull one from hostloc to show him?
EDIT: typo
I didn't understand the last paragraph you said. . . Pull one from hostloc to show him?
@gebilaowang said:
I didn't understand the last paragraph you said. . . Pull one from hostloc to show him?
The modification date of this link is March 13, and the direct link will also skip the prompt and make the payment smoothly. https://p3terx.com/archives/cheap-vps-virmach-tokyo.html
you joking right, why are you demanding Virmach to be responsible for a chinese website as though it was him who made that page?
i can make a webpage too with my aff link and say free coffee for one year with each VPS purchase
you are so funny!
be serious now, who paid you to make jokes here?
I'm just a novice, I just understood what this means. That is to say, all products purchased by aff are not responsible. Anyway, I did not write any configuration.
Please understand, I didn't quite understand the principle of aff until he said so.
That is, I bought something on his official website that no one knew what it was in the end.
@gebilaowang said:
I didn't understand the last paragraph you said. . . Pull one from hostloc to show him?
The modification date of this link is March 13, and the direct link will also skip the prompt and make the payment smoothly. https://p3terx.com/archives/cheap-vps-virmach-tokyo.html
you joking right, why are you demanding Virmach to be responsible for a chinese website as though it was him who made that page?
i can make a webpage too with my aff link and say free coffee for one year with each VPS purchase
you are so funny!
be serious now, who paid you to make jokes here?
There is no need to create a Chinese website, if needed, it can be written clearly in Chinese on the order page. Or put a hyperlink on the order page and point to a page with special instructions in Chinese.
Personal suggestion does not need a Chinese website.
@VirMach
Hello, I still can't get my vps fixed, can't re-install the system, can't reach the vps by ssh, VNC only shows that the vps gets into rescue mode. Really need your help here.
Please help me re-install the system, thank you!
Ticket: #551307
@VirMach
I purchased it through the link in this post and I did not see any order number during the purchase process, the email I received showed this message
This is a payment receipt for Invoice 1416897 sent on 04/11/2022
Ryzen Special 768 - HelplessBack-VM (04/11/2022 - 04/10/2024) $30.00 USD
Selection Location: Tokyo, JP - Koto Ward, Tokyo -
Operating System: Debian 11 (64Bit) Minimal
@gebilaowang said:
That is, I bought something on his official website that no one knew what it was in the end.
you are WRONG
you bought something through an affman link
the affman did not know what it was
YOU do not know what it was
YOU just follow affman words
Virmach of course knows what they are selling.
So novice, can you now understand? your problem is now with affman, can you go and punish affman now?
beat affman with a whip or something
bad, bad affman
So I just hope @virmach closes these affman accounts when he's done with his business and doesn't offer them any rebates they get during the LES exclusive event. For example, the owner of this connection.
Comments
I agree, but it's not possible because only @VirMach knows their info, and their promotion is allowed, we buy through the link, and @VirMach will pay them accordingly.
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Okay, to be fair, buying through a completely unknown rando affiliate link is probably not a Good Plan (tm) either. You can protect yourself by just not doing this. You truly are equally at fault ( just my opinion ).
Debian 11 is fixed.
I mean we've always had this problem. Anyone can link anything they want on the internet and claim for it to be whatever they say, at that point it's up to the user to verify the information. For example if I randomly linked https://billing.virmach.com/cart.php?a=add&pid=199&billingcycle=biennially somewhere then you wouldn't see the information on the offer page (https://virmach.com/special-offers/) or this thread where it states it's for LES members. However, you also wouldn't see what you're even buying. It just says Special 768. What if it's a 768MB bandwidth special? You just don't know then.
Or people can still lie and make claims such as it's the 768MB special with 200GB disk and 10TB bandwidth, or omit details to make it sound better or worse.
This is a very common purchase method, almost all VPS providers have aff, and it can correctly navigate to the official website of the VPS merchant.This means that it is officially recognized and successfully paid through it to the VPS merchant's account and not someone else's account.
I spent way too much time on this. It's definitely a combination of things but in the end just essentially disabling ebtables got everything fixed... I'm speaking with SolusVM as I don't want to spend any more time trying to understand why that would cause all this. I have a few guesses in my head but I was completely surprised by this end result.
It may of course have to do with how the network equipment configuration affects it as well, but wow.
Sorry I'm real busy and I'm only barely skimming over these messages here, I'm not going to provide any response really right now outside of I recommend anyone in a situation where they did not follow the offer rules for whatever reason tries their best not to detract from the offer rules any further by constantly bringing it up or messaging me everywhere, or making tickets, or spamming other invoice ID information.
And I recommend they be very very very patient as it means they probably extended their activation time by days to weeks, and lost any guarantee of it being activated. But also don't freak out, we're not going to intentionally screw anyone over.
It will just have to be done at the end of everything else when I have time to correct them.
So basically the exact opposite of this guy.
I don't think I've ever seen that happen, DM me your IP and I'll check the logs real quick but you shouldn't just lose your controls from that.
Do you have one of these links so I can see what you mean? And how do you know what you are buying from the merchant if you skipped the page on the merchant's website verifying the specifications, etc? Not necessarily you specifically, you as in any person who follows the link.
So what do you think about this.I did buy the product you also marked on the invoice.
yes very odd because few days back i did exact same thing, worked perfectly fine and successfully installed Debian 11 via netboot.
DM sent.
I bench YABS 24/7/365 unless it's a leap year.
Congratulations? I'm sure you'll be very happy with it? What are you looking for here?
I have not made any aff links in any VPS service provider myself, but I know that the VPS service provider will give them some extra benefits (such as rebates) when purchasing through aff, that's all.
He's asking for an example aff link like you posted earlier. Pull one from hostloc to show him?
EDIT: typo
I didn't understand the last paragraph you said. . . Pull one from hostloc to show him?
The modification date of this link is March 13, and the direct link will also skip the prompt and make the payment smoothly.
https://p3terx.com/archives/cheap-vps-virmach-tokyo.html
you joking right, why are you demanding Virmach to be responsible for a chinese website as though it was him who made that page?
i can make a webpage too with my aff link and say free coffee for one year with each VPS purchase
you are so funny!
be serious now, who paid you to make jokes here?
I bench YABS 24/7/365 unless it's a leap year.
I'm just a novice, I just understood what this means. That is to say, all products purchased by aff are not responsible. Anyway, I did not write any configuration.
Please understand, I didn't quite understand the principle of aff until he said so.
That is, I bought something on his official website that no one knew what it was in the end.
you are WRONG
you bought something through an affman link
the affman did not know what it was
YOU do not know what it was
YOU just follow affman words
Virmach of course knows what they are selling.
So novice, can you now understand? your problem is now with affman, can you go and punish affman now?
beat affman with a whip or something
bad, bad affman
I bench YABS 24/7/365 unless it's a leap year.
There is no need to create a Chinese website, if needed, it can be written clearly in Chinese on the order page. Or put a hyperlink on the order page and point to a page with special instructions in Chinese.
Personal suggestion does not need a Chinese website.
Do I need to wait for the work order to be processed? Or do you need to apply for a refund to buy it again?
I don't remember this happened when I was posting buses. 🚍
Just saying.
Certainement qui est en droit de vous rendre absurde, est en droit de vous rendre injuste - Voltaire
@VirMach
Hello, I still can't get my vps fixed, can't re-install the system, can't reach the vps by ssh, VNC only shows that the vps gets into rescue mode. Really need your help here.
Please help me re-install the system, thank you!
Ticket: #551307
@VirMach
I purchased it through the link in this post and I did not see any order number during the purchase process, the email I received showed this message
This is a payment receipt for Invoice 1416897 sent on 04/11/2022
Ryzen Special 768 - HelplessBack-VM (04/11/2022 - 04/10/2024) $30.00 USD
Selection Location: Tokyo, JP - Koto Ward, Tokyo -
Operating System: Debian 11 (64Bit) Minimal
So I just hope @virmach closes these affman accounts when he's done with his business and doesn't offer them any rebates they get during the LES exclusive event. For example, the owner of this connection.
View Ticket #867190
Order #561230
Invoice #1416287
Thank you
Hi there, I've just placed the order #2009489040,
Pls activate it as u see fit, thank u for ur effort! @VirMach
Apart from the pathetic "u", this is the way it should be done.
Read the rules, folks!
lowendinfo.com had no interest.