@WSS said:
I guess I missed out on something. I would probably consider someone asking such a question as a litmus test.
At one point in time I created a free image host which people abused to no end tormenting each other. On the surface level I didn't really care but then I received an email from one of the kids who was being picked on by other kids at her school and I decided to just discontinue the service rather than have to moderate or otherwise deal with it.
Was it created to explicitly torment others? No where things likely uploaded to it which could have been considered racist? Possibly - I didn't monitor it. But had my host expressly forbid such things from being hosted, I could have lost my account.
Just food for thought.
When I was running mrvm.net, I lost a host in a specific country due to one of my customers had an image host and some of their users abused it to upload CP.
That is never acceptable, but I was a little hurt that I, as 3rd in line, was declined service without the possibility to act on that case.
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@mikho said: Limit the new members to certain areas/categories of the forum and make them interact with the rest of us to earn Karma, and when they reach a certain level of Karma, can upvote offers and be a "full" member of the site.
While they are "new members", they can view and respond to anything except offer posts; it takes +5 karma to become a standard user.
Thats how it already works kind of?
Yeah, but not forcing a vote on whether they should be accepted as members or not.
Perhaps raising that limit to 10?
Yeah, so when people register, they become members only in the group "New members" if they never get to +10 then they never get to see offers or make new discussions, only respond to existing ones, so the only change in that is to go to +10 instead of +5
But I have a counter: what if... for historic reasons, we make it +7
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Side note.... notice the "1000+ Karma" text in the quote. Happens when I select part of your post and quote it. Something to add to the bug list
I fixed that, cant replicate, can you hard refresh and confirm you dont have anything cached and give me steps to reproduce, I understand what you are saying, I just cant make it happen:
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Auto Ban hammer at -7
Auto-promote to standard member at +7
3rd question added "Are you human" and the field name is 2+2, so if anyone answers with 4, they are a shit bot.
People who are "New members" cannot see offers or domain sales until promoted, and cannot start new threads, only respond to existing ones.
upvotes for posts on other threads count, not just upvotes on the new member thread so the more they take part, the more chance they have of getting a quick promotion.
Adding this to the OP so its not lost if this ends up going on for a few pages.
Let's test this for a minimum of 30 days before making any more changes.
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@mikho said:
Side note.... notice the "1000+ Karma" text in the quote. Happens when I select part of your post and quote it. Something to add to the bug list
I fixed that, cant replicate, can you hard refresh and confirm you dont have anything cached and give me steps to reproduce, I understand what you are saying, I just cant make it happen:
A couple of hard refreshes and its no longer showing karma inside the quote.
Lets see if it returns
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@AnthonySmith said: It's pretty obvious to me at least that the new membership approval system is at least reducing that friction; new membership overall is down 66% over the last 30 days, while new < 30-day members who then post in a topic is up 141%
Interesting! Thanks for the details! It does seem like the new system is making a significant and helpful improvement!
@treesmokah said:
I'm fighting an urge to politisperg and respond to this. But I will spare you some unsavory words.
With all the things going down in the UK, Brits(real ones) are the least "racist" group there is. And frankly, they shouldn't be.
As it should be. It's always that small minority group that gives the rest a bad name...
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@WSS said:
I guess I missed out on something. I would probably consider someone asking such a question as a litmus test.
At one point in time I created a free image host which people abused to no end tormenting each other. On the surface level I didn't really care but then I received an email from one of the kids who was being picked on by other kids at her school and I decided to just discontinue the service rather than have to moderate or otherwise deal with it.
Was it created to explicitly torment others? No where things likely uploaded to it which could have been considered racist? Possibly - I didn't monitor it. But had my host expressly forbid such things from being hosted, I could have lost my account.
Just food for thought.
When I was running mrvm.net, I lost a host in a specific country due to one of my customers had an image host and some of their users abused it to upload CP.
That is never acceptable, but I was a little hurt that I, as 3rd in line, was declined service without the possibility to act on that case.
And that's why we can never have good things... That is the exact reason I am worried about my free image host and usually host it on throwaway servers which I dont care much about.
I speak fluent sarcasm and broken logic. | I would agree with you, but thæn we’d both be wrong.
@treesmokah said:
I'm fighting an urge to politisperg and respond to this. But I will spare you some unsavory words.
With all the things going down in the UK, Brits(real ones) are the least "racist" group there is. And frankly, they shouldn't be.
As it should be. It's always that small minority group that gives the rest a bad name...
What I was saying was the opposite of that
Brits should be much more racist, they are becoming a minority in their own country and nobody but them can change it. Politicans do not work for the people and they couldn't care less you cannot walk outside at night without getting stabbed or raped by the "cultural enrichers".
I would love to see some public hangings, specifically for traitors who allowed this to happen. At some point its better to be called a racist, than be dead.
@treesmokah said:
I'm fighting an urge to politisperg and respond to this. But I will spare you some unsavory words.
With all the things going down in the UK, Brits(real ones) are the least "racist" group there is. And frankly, they shouldn't be.
As it should be. It's always that small minority group that gives the rest a bad name...
What I was saying was the opposite of that
Brits should be much more racist, they are becoming a minority in their own country.
Wasn't it the Brits that went and invaded colonized multiple countries and made them part of "Great Britain"? Then they should be the most welcoming of others since they went out to find them in the first place
Anyway, lets not go into a debate about racism on LES. We have enough of that IRL already...
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@somik said: Wasn't it the Brits that went and invaded colonized multiple countries and made them part of "Great Britain"? Then they should be the most welcoming of others since they went out to find them in the first place
Can you tell me how many of these colonizers are alive today?
Why do you think everyone in the country should suffer from actions of their ancestors?
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When I was running mrvm.net, I lost a host in a specific country due to one of my customers had an image host and some of their users abused it to upload CP.
That is never acceptable, but I was a little hurt that I, as 3rd in line, was declined service without the possibility to act on that case.
“Technology is best when it brings people together.” – Matt Mullenweg
Yeah, so when people register, they become members only in the group "New members" if they never get to +10 then they never get to see offers or make new discussions, only respond to existing ones, so the only change in that is to go to +10 instead of +5
But I have a counter: what if... for historic reasons, we make it +7
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OH MY !!!!!!
Side note.... notice the "1000+ Karma" text in the quote. Happens when I select part of your post and quote it. Something to add to the bug list
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I fixed that, cant replicate, can you hard refresh and confirm you dont have anything cached and give me steps to reproduce, I understand what you are saying, I just cant make it happen:
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ok settings updated.
Changes:
Auto Ban hammer at -7
Auto-promote to standard member at +7
3rd question added "Are you human" and the field name is 2+2, so if anyone answers with 4, they are a shit bot.
People who are "New members" cannot see offers or domain sales until promoted, and cannot start new threads, only respond to existing ones.
upvotes for posts on other threads count, not just upvotes on the new member thread so the more they take part, the more chance they have of getting a quick promotion.
Adding this to the OP so its not lost if this ends up going on for a few pages.
Let's test this for a minimum of 30 days before making any more changes.
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A couple of hard refreshes and its no longer showing karma inside the quote.
Lets see if it returns
“Technology is best when it brings people together.” – Matt Mullenweg
Interesting! Thanks for the details! It does seem like the new system is making a significant and helpful improvement!
As it should be. It's always that small minority group that gives the rest a bad name...
And that's why we can never have good things... That is the exact reason I am worried about my free image host and usually host it on throwaway servers which I dont care much about.
What I was saying was the opposite of that
Brits should be much more racist, they are becoming a minority in their own country and nobody but them can change it. Politicans do not work for the people and they couldn't care less you cannot walk outside at night without getting stabbed or raped by the "cultural enrichers".
I would love to see some public hangings, specifically for traitors who allowed this to happen. At some point its better to be called a racist, than be dead.
Wasn't it the Brits that went and invaded colonized multiple countries and made them part of "Great Britain"? Then they should be the most welcoming of others since they went out to find them in the first place
Anyway, lets not go into a debate about racism on LES. We have enough of that IRL already...
Can you tell me how many of these colonizers are alive today?
Why do you think everyone in the country should suffer from actions of their ancestors?
Sounds awfully similar to Critical race theory.
Thanks for the feedback
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