mailbox.org price hike
On mailbox.org there was announced a price hike from 15. july for new users and for actual members 1st september. This changes as follow
Standard account €3/m
Premium account €9/m
This 2 plans getting doubke storage
Light stays at €1/m
Who still was on light can get standard or premium for the old price if change before end of august.
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A bit more detailed: the price hike is actually only removed discount for the yearly payment (e.g., the Standard account is now €36/year instead of €30/year), while the monthly €3/m price remains the same.
Until the end of this month, you can extend your account as far into the future as you want at the old yearly price. I'm good for the next 5 years.
With the mail/cloud storage quota doubled, it's not that bad at all. In fact, I feel like this price hike with doubled storage quota has made their offer more attractive than before.
Looks like @jarland maybe be getting some more customers.
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I don't think they compete in the same email service segment. Mailbox.org is a heavily privacy-oriented provider with complete productivity suite that competes directly with Proton and Tuta.
Besides that, it seems you didn't read beyond the thread title. :P
Admittedly, I am not familiar with the features of this provider, I do recall looking at them for email services a while back, but I didn't see the office suite stuff.
I did read your prior comment, anytime prices increase, seems like some people look for alternatives, even if the price increase is justified. But I agree they are not a 1-to-1 comparison.
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I am not the biggest fan of Mailbox. Used it for a while. Would rather give Posteo a try, over Mailbox.
Have been very happy with Mythic Beasts, though.
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This is the exact reasons why other providers will get a couple of new customers.
As soon as there is this title, "price hike", some people panic and move.
Not cause they actually have to, instead they move because they don't understand what it really means for them.
“Technology is best when it brings people together.” – Matt Mullenweg
I don't think people are generally keen to switch their main mail provider unless it's really necessary. Especially if they don't use their own domain, which I believe is the vast majority of population if we look beyond the LES community niche.
Moving mail with your own domain, especially if it's just one domain, is trivial. But moving everything tied to a hosting domain (@gmail.com, @mailbox.org, and so on), with all the services, subscriptions, purchased play store items, etc. that have piled up over the years or decades, is painful.
Or the opposite - it's also annoying to move the 20+ domains (setting up all the DNS records ... MX, SPF, DKIM, and DMARC, filters, redirections to own folder, etc... for every one of them) I have in my mailbox.org account.
Then you read beyond the thread title and think what to do. :P
Anyway, when I got their email about the price hike, it didn't even feel like a price hike to me, for the reasons stated above. Now it's even better value for money to me.
History tells me a different story
I'm with you on this, all the way. I stay with some providers, just because it works and I pay for a stable infrastructure and peace of mind.
But there is people who doesn't calculate with the time it takes to move everything to a different provide if they feel mistreated in any way.
Mail, using a common/joint domainname, as you mention is probably less likely.
But if you have your own domain, or if its a VPS provider...... Things get rolling fast in the low end world.
“Technology is best when it brings people together.” – Matt Mullenweg
Its more like compete with tuta, but still not providing an always free account.
As of posteo, 4GB at €1 isnt bad, but wonder how long that going, until they change that plan.
Every mail hoster has own ups and downs.
I was a big fan of posteo until my address got added to some spam list, now I keep getting "PayPal Invoice Due" emails every few days. I like everything else they do apart from the spam filtering.
You can forward spam emails to train their spam filter but I kind of gave up on that since it didn't really seem to help.
avoid mailbox.org
Why? Personal preferences or a horror story that you want to tell us?
“Technology is best when it brings people together.” – Matt Mullenweg
avoid mailbox.org> @mikho said:
personal preferences and the fact that the provider defines itself as a politically oriented provider. it wants to exclude customers whose views it finds objectionable, but has not yet revealed how the ideological screening will be conducted. the question is, how can an email provider determine the political views of its customers? one idea i once read about was scanning the mailbox for specific content. i don’t know if that will actually be implemented.
In the meantime, the ownership stance strongly opposes surveillance capitalism, advertising-based tracking and weakening encryption through political or technical backdoors like current Chat Control.
And yes, they don't like nazis and generally seem to prefer humanity, but that's evident through some of their other projects they support, not through the mail provider itself.
Funny how some people like a provider, while others dislike it for the very same moral stance it's known for through the other projects they support, which aren't directly related to their mail hosting business.
I won't go easy on you here, because you constantly accuse them of something you know they haven't done, while being afraid they might do it,even though all their actions and the things they publicly stand behind tell us the opposite.
Their public stance is clearly pro-privacy, pro-open-source, pro-digital sovereignty and pro-European tech independence and it is openly critical of US Big Tech, the AfD etc... What's wrong with that? Their political advocacy is mainly around technology policy anyway.
As far as I know, there isn't a single known case where they have profiled customers based on their personal political views or mix that with the mail hosting business.
Slandering isn't cool.
that’s exactly what makes this company so messed up… speaking out against surveillance, tracking, and the weakening of encryption, supposedly advocating for people (but not everyone - because this company seems to think in extreme terms of social classes) and diversity, yet still being naive and divisive. how can you trust a company with such a bipolar disorder?
you cant look at the provider (in this case, for email services) in isolation! the provider is pushing an agenda, and that’s what makes it dangerous. it’s driven by an ideology that likely takes precedence over any technical achievement.
you don’t have to be considerate of me. i can handle it. as i said, this is likely a company with a bipolar disorder that has never publicly answered questions about its ideological stance, and that - unfortunately - leaves room for speculation. in my opinion, tech companies should be apolitical or at least neutral. that definitely doesn’t seem to be the case here.
ideological screening isn't cool either, and it brings to mind germany's darkest times.
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