Are the Asrock Rack and similar 24/7-focused boards already available or are you using desktop mainboards?
Currently, AsrockRack (B650D4U-2T/BCM) and Gigabyte (MC13-LE0) are available for the 7000 series, and some supermicro boards might be coming in too, I recall seeing a AM5 based Microcloud coming soon somewhere as well. We're using the Gigabyte one as it's more easily available in Europe currently compared to the AsrockRack.
@SpeedBus said: Gigabyte one as it's more easily available in Europe
Haha, thanks for sharing that! Can actually find the Gigabyte with retailers in Germany, just wrongly categorized as AM4 board.
Already wondered how long it'll take till those boards are available here.
Are the Asrock Rack and similar 24/7-focused boards already available or are you using desktop mainboards?
Currently, AsrockRack (B650D4U-2T/BCM) and Gigabyte (MC13-LE0) are available for the 7000 series, and some supermicro boards might be coming in too, I recall seeing a AM5 based Microcloud coming soon somewhere as well. We're using the Gigabyte one as it's more easily available in Europe currently compared to the AsrockRack.
Imo it should be standard for a server board to come with dual M.2 slots.
All those AM5 "server" boards either lack a second M.2 slot or don't support the proper 22110 length which is needed for datacenter SSDs with PLP.
Or ideally native U.2 without sacrificing the PCIe port
Asrock X470 is the only board to my knowledge that supports both
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Are the Asrock Rack and similar 24/7-focused boards already available or are you using desktop mainboards?
Currently, AsrockRack (B650D4U-2T/BCM) and Gigabyte (MC13-LE0) are available for the 7000 series, and some supermicro boards might be coming in too, I recall seeing a AM5 based Microcloud coming soon somewhere as well. We're using the Gigabyte one as it's more easily available in Europe currently compared to the AsrockRack.
Imo it should be standard for a server board to come with dual M.2 slots.
All those AM5 "server" boards either lack a second M.2 slot or don't support the proper 22110 length which is needed for datacenter SSDs with PLP.
Or ideally native U.2 without sacrificing the PCIe port
Asrock X470 is the only board to my knowledge that supports both
I suspect it could be due to the B650 / B650E which the AM5 motherboards are using so far instead of a X670, the B650/E has much fewer PCIe Lanes and certain ports from what I remember (similar to the B450 v X470 etc), but then again the X570 from AsRockRack too didn't have 2 full length M.2 slots, 1x full "22110" and the other one being a bit shorter.
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I'd love to see a AM5 board with two full size M.2 slots
I considered building a few Ryzen systems but the limitations in terms of storage and RAM makes it hard to justify.
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Is 192GB not enough for the 7950x?
Should be possible with 48GB UDimms beeing around by now. (But without 'actual' ECC so far, no idea if that's possible.)
Also @FrankZ feel free to move my derailment into a separate thread.
Just imagine how much faster everything would be -imagine all of the freed CPU time, RAM, and drive I/O calls, if you nutjobs stopped running YABS for just one day!
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Just imagine how much faster everything would be -imagine all of the freed CPU time, RAM, and drive I/O calls, if you nutjobs stopped running YABS for just one day!
But then we wont know which server has what level of performance. How can we live without knowing where I am getting more geekbench scores per dollar?
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@hornet said:
Just imagine how much faster everything would be -imagine all of the freed CPU time, RAM, and drive I/O calls, if you nutjobs stopped running YABS for just one day!
@red said: Just curious, is there a reason why you never buy your VPS yearly?
For benchmark? Buying yearly is waste of money for me, as i only need 2-3 days to bench a VPS. But for production also i never bought yearly. The reason is solely because of performance. I don't know whether the machine will perform as good as i bought it on day one.
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Are the Asrock Rack and similar 24/7-focused boards already available or are you using desktop mainboards?
AsRockRack and Gigabyte make server boards for Ryzen 7000, I've seen a handful of providers get them and sell them already
To be honest, desktop boards are probably fine too given AsRockRack's track record, they only really lack IPMI.
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Currently, AsrockRack (B650D4U-2T/BCM) and Gigabyte (MC13-LE0) are available for the 7000 series, and some supermicro boards might be coming in too, I recall seeing a AM5 based Microcloud coming soon somewhere as well. We're using the Gigabyte one as it's more easily available in Europe currently compared to the AsrockRack.
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That's why I'm asking
Haha, thanks for sharing that! Can actually find the Gigabyte with retailers in Germany, just wrongly categorized as AM4 board.
Already wondered how long it'll take till those boards are available here.
Imo it should be standard for a server board to come with dual M.2 slots.
All those AM5 "server" boards either lack a second M.2 slot or don't support the proper 22110 length which is needed for datacenter SSDs with PLP.
Or ideally native U.2 without sacrificing the PCIe port
Asrock X470 is the only board to my knowledge that supports both
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I suspect it could be due to the B650 / B650E which the AM5 motherboards are using so far instead of a X670, the B650/E has much fewer PCIe Lanes and certain ports from what I remember (similar to the B450 v X470 etc), but then again the X570 from AsRockRack too didn't have 2 full length M.2 slots, 1x full "22110" and the other one being a bit shorter.
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https://www.computerbase.de/2022-10/chipsaetze-ryzen-7000-amd-x670e-x670-b650e-b650-vergleich/
In German, but the table should be understandable.
I'd love to see a AM5 board with two full size M.2 slots
I considered building a few Ryzen systems but the limitations in terms of storage and RAM makes it hard to justify.
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Is 192GB not enough for the 7950x?
Should be possible with 48GB UDimms beeing around by now. (But without 'actual' ECC so far, no idea if that's possible.)
Also @FrankZ feel free to move my derailment into a separate thread.
Is 192GB officially supported already?
Non ECC is no an option for a production server
With EPYC systems I can use 512GB without a problem, which makes it much more appealing imo
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Monthly.
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It looks like Per month
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Just imagine how much faster everything would be -imagine all of the freed CPU time, RAM, and drive I/O calls, if you nutjobs stopped running YABS for just one day!
But then we wont know which server has what level of performance. How can we live without knowing where I am getting more geekbench scores per dollar?
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Just curious, is there a reason why you never buy your VPS yearly?
For benchmark? Buying yearly is waste of money for me, as i only need 2-3 days to bench a VPS. But for production also i never bought yearly. The reason is solely because of performance. I don't know whether the machine will perform as good as i bought it on day one.
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